stainless steel materials

[twisted]

gud day. where do you guys go to when buying stainless steel stuff. yung pwede ang tinge or where they sell it per foot. i know a place along commonwealth ave near evergotesco qc, they sell stainless tubes there per foot but the flat bars are sold whole 20ft or something. gets pretty expensive especially if you need only one or two feet worth of material.
i need different thickness of flatbars in small proportions only. please help:)

[bbn]

There is a place in Taytay across the 7-11 in the vicinity of the Taytay Market. This is where I get all my tingi stock. To get there go to end of Oritgas Extension and turn right. You will pass SM Taytay. The 7-11 is on the right, the store is on left.

[twisted]

thanks bro ill go check it out. i just remembered, i hope they have stainless sheets also.:)

[bbn]

I've not seen any sheets there Bro but they have all sort of bar stock and tubes. They also have other fixtures as well as supplies for SS work. Let us know if they have sheets.

[twisted]

ok, will post what i find out about the place. thanks:)

[Boybakal]

do you know there fake and real stainless?

notice when stainless gets rusty after awhile?

know what you buy make sure there not fake

[twisted]

wow, really, i didint know that. thanks for the heads up. so how do i immediately know if its fake or not?:confused:

[Boybakal]

304, 201, 202, Cold Rolled Coils, Cold Rolled strips, 304 2B, 304 BA, 300 Series, 400 Series, 200 Series, stainless steel 304, stainless steel 201, stainless steel 202, stainless steel 2B

Yan mga code nila

304 is the original stainless so expect to be pricey yan ang mga benta
3-5 years ago

kaso dumating ang magaling na china syempre mura kaya yan
201 ang code ask nyo kung 304 ba yan or 202

201 is almost the same medyo mas more nickel content i wont elaborate the rest kasi im not an expert but i deal with stainless puro buo nga lang no scraps..

you can try asking sa cainta area ortigas ave ext corner st joseph drive cainta almost infront of ever gotesco they sell stainless there too..

[joey]

304, 201, 202, Cold Rolled Coils, Cold Rolled strips, 304 2B, 304 BA, 300 Series, 400 Series, 200 Series, stainless steel 304, stainless steel 201, stainless steel 202, stainless steel 2B

Yan mga code nila

304 is the original stainless so expect to be pricey yan ang mga benta
3-5 years ago

kaso dumating ang magaling na china syempre mura kaya yan
201 ang code ask nyo kung 304 ba yan or 202

201 is almost the same medyo mas more nickel content i wont elaborate the rest kasi im not an expert but i deal with stainless puro buo nga lang no scraps..

you can try asking sa cainta area ortigas ave ext corner st joseph drive cainta almost infront of ever gotesco they sell stainless there too..

thanks sir bakal, very informative. we used in our cookware the grade 304s and 316L. this are food grade stainless steel.

[bbn]

thanks sir bakal, very informative. we used in our cookware the grade 304s and 316L. this are food grade stainless steel.

Hi Joey. Where do you get your 316? This is what is recommended for use on a boat. From your post I'm hoping you make your cookware. Do you have scraps you'd be willing to sell?

[joey]

Hi Joey. Where do you get your 316? This is what is recommended for use on a boat. From your post I'm hoping you make your cookware. Do you have scraps you'd be willing to sell?

actually our cookware is made in texas usa. we are only the one of the supplier in asia. sorry no scrap. but just curious, what size do you need?

[bbn]

Mostly I use small rods and flat bars. Flat bars are however usually thicker than what I need so I prefer cuttings from sheets. My suki industrial supply makes there own pressure tanks so I can get cutting from them but it is just ordinary stainless steel.

[twisted]

sir boybakal thanks for that rundown/warning on the different kinds of stainless. last week i finally went to ortigas ext. but it was so traffic. i only got to the one near ever gotesco. they only have sheet and tube SS. no flat bars what so ever. and they only sell the 301 kind so its really expensive.

in never got to the one sir lncc63 was talking about because the traffic was so bad. i ended up going back to the store along comonwealth ave near diliman prep. the lady there told me that they dont sell their flatbars per foot however if they have scraps of flatbars the ones that are shorter than 20ft. that they could sell you, tiyempuhan nga lang. the lady there also told me that the pipes they sell are the 202 grade. she swears by it that it dosent rust:)

[Boybakal]

i ended up going back to the store along comonwealth ave near diliman prep. the lady there told me that they dont sell their flatbars per foot however if they have scraps of flatbars the ones that are shorter than 20ft. that they could sell you, tiyempuhan nga lang. the lady there also told me that the pipes they sell are the 202 grade. she swears by it that it dosent rust:)

it doesnt rust? owws? people say just to sell hehe i guarantee it will rust maybe not in 1 year but surely it will rust (it will start on portion you welded) and theres also difference in pipes and tubes the ones shes selling is tubing not pipes.. compare prices of 202 and 301 for sure its huge gap coz 202 uses very low nickel kaya nga pati piso natin tinitira ng china para makuha nickel ng piso natin dahil mahal nickel.

also for ss flatbars by order basis the shortest you can get is 8ft.

[bbn]

My condolences on your traffic experience. No kidding, when I first moved there, I got a cramp in left calve from all the clutching. Anyway, if you come from QC you could try Imelda Ave (now Felix Ave.) from Sta. Lucia Mall or via Antipolo. If you come from South, the alternate is through the Barkadahan Bridge then along the Floodway road then a left to the Taytay market. This sounds complicated but it really isn't and there is little traffic ... well most of the time.

[guad]

gud day. where do you guys go to when buying stainless steel stuff. yung pwede ang tinge or where they sell it per foot. i know a place along commonwealth ave near evergotesco qc, they sell stainless tubes there per foot but the flat bars are sold whole 20ft or something. gets pretty expensive especially if you need only one or two feet worth of material.
i need different thickness of flatbars in small proportions only. please help:)

Hi, where exactly is this store on Commonwealth Ave.? Any name, contact info, or directions?

Also, pardon my ignorance, but what is 'tinge' or 'tingi'?

[bbn]

"Tinge" or "tingi" is Tagalog bro. I guess you've not been in the country long. "Tinge" means sold in small amounts or odd sizes. Normally metal stocks are sold in fixed lengths. For example, pipes are 6m meters in length, and you cannot buy less than that length unless the store sells "tinge".

[guad]

do you know there fake and real stainless?
notice when stainless gets rusty after awhile?
know what you buy make sure there not fake

it doesnt rust? owws? people say just to sell hehe i guarantee it will rust maybe not in 1 year but surely it will rust (it will start on portion you welded) and theres also difference in pipes and tubes the ones shes selling is tubing not pipes.. compare prices of 202 and 301 for sure its huge gap coz 202 uses very low nickel kaya nga pati piso natin tinitira ng china para makuha nickel ng piso natin dahil mahal nickel.

Does this warning also apply to stainless steel screws? Do we have to worry about the quality of the stainless steel in screws that we buy from stores like To Suy, Screw Kingdom, Screwmaster, other Binondo/Divisoria stores, King Bolt, Y2K Screw, Cubao stores, etc., ... or are they all generally good and not fake or deficient and will not rust?

According to this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel
it seems to be the chromium content that affects whether the stainless steel will rust or not.

Thanks for the explanation of 'tinge' or 'tingi'.

[twisted]

Hi, where exactly is this store on Commonwealth Ave.? Any name, contact info, or directions?


its near ever gotesco, if youre coming from philcoa, its the foot bridge before ever gotesco. its right at the front of the stairs of the foot bridge, and has a big sign that says royal bender. last know phone numbers are 435-2505 and 433-4446

[goldrat]

trick i learned if you want ss stuff. bring a magnet and if it sticks to the material then the quality is questionable even if its marked as stainless steel. tried it on kitchen bowls at the mall and you can tell the difference with out looking at the prices or the brand.

[benQ]

I passed by Caloocan one time and there is this street (MH Delpilar) that is parallel to Rizal ave. From 10th ave down to 7th or 6th ave i saw rows of shops selling only stainless in all shapes and sizes. Maybe this is where the stainless jeeps and cookwares source their materials. I think this place, Delpilar is for stainless as Raon is for electronics.

[spyghost]

since we are already talking about metals here, do these shops also carry aluminum rods maybe an inch or so in diameter and also bronze/brass rods?

btw, how will you know if the brass/bronze is self lubricating type?

and yes, tingi ang kelangan ko. less than a foot actually but a foot will do

[WillieCapule]

Goldrat is correct - good tip.

If it comes from China - you need to be watchful. Not passing judgement, just observations from experience.
Even Tu Suy, they have different grades, different prices.

If you need yacht/maritime ss, then you should go to a chandlery - perhaps Manila Yacht Club or some of the commercial chandleries around Juan Luna in Binondo.

[spyghost]

you can try asking sa cainta area ortigas ave ext corner st joseph drive cainta almost infront of ever gotesco they sell stainless there too..

what's the name of this shop? any telephone numbers?

[spyghost]

i've gone to this shop in st. joseph.

unfortunately, they do not have the dimensions that i need.

what i am looking for is an 80mm length x 50mm diameter solid steel or stainless steel shafting. i can also settle for an 80mm x 50mm x 50mm solid steel or stainless steel box.

any ideas where i can purchase this?

[freeman]

Bro,
Try the surplus shops that sell industiral scrap along mc Arthur in valenzuela. They have stainless steel there..mixers, conveyors, hoppers etc.

[spyghost]

what's the name of this shop? any telephone numbers?

i've gone to this place in taytay. i went by the floodway route para hindi traffic. once you passed by taytay market, turn left on the corner of 7-11. go to the rightmost lane and go easy. just a few meters ahead you'll see a blue themed store na puro bakal (shafting, box sections, pipes, l bracket, etc). the name is placed on top and is very large. btw, don't go during lunch breaks kasi closed sila.

this is the place:

e. de jesus general merchandise (nihonweld)
manila east road, san juan, taytay, rizal
658-5761 658-2134 286-4785

i got a 2" diameter x 12" cold rolled steel. ito pinakamaliit nila sa tingi. not bat imho.

unfortunately, they do not have the 1-1/4 diameter aluminum and brass/broze (sintered or self lubricating) solid shafting which i still need. any ideas?

[bbn]

Bro for shafting in our area I buy from the "Makita" industrial supply along Felix Avenue on the Cainta side of the Cainta Junction. If coming from Sta Lucia, just go straight through the stoplight. The store is about 100m from the stoplight on the left side.

You could also try "Cut Size Metal Fabrication" also along Felix Ave. but this one is before the junction coming from Sta. Lucia. The sign on their storefront says "GT Metal" but the receipt give the later. The landmark is the Shell station. I'm not really sure if they have SS or Bronze shafting but this is where I buy MS plates cut to whatever specs I want.

Another source is the sister store of the "Makita", if I remember correctly the store name is Tools For U ... or something like that. They don't really carry metal stock however I know for a fact that they can order for you buy you'd have to wait. If you are like me who often does not have the time to go to Binondo or Caloocan, this is fine. They can get hard to find stock like 30mm 316 SS round stock for example.

[spyghost]

wow those are very good info you got there bro. that's just what i need. i'll pass by those places after new year to be sure they are all open na.

[bbn]

Glad to be of help. The sister store of "Makita" (this is what people in our area call it by the way) is along Ortigas Extension. At the stoplight coming from Sta. Lucia turn left, it just after the Meralco office. They mostly carry tools but they do also have some bits and pieces like screws, nuts and bolts, etc.

[spyghost]

you got a phone of these shops?

[bryant77]

Just adding a little info on stainless steel.

Type 202 - general purpose stainless steel. Usually ginagamit sa mga railings ng mall, building at houses.

Type 304 - the most common grade, usually ginagamit sa food industry like stainless steel kitchen ng mga fast food. A little bit pricey compare sa 202.

Type 316 - the second most common grade (after 304). Ginagamit din sa food industry most application sa industrial. High resistance in corrosion.

Corrosion? Yes. Kinakalawang po ang stainless steel 202 at 304. Lalo na pag nalagyan ng muriatic acid even the fumes of acid can corrode the material .

Caustic Soda or baking soda ang pwede gamitin panglinis to neutralized the acid. Use scotch brite or 3M abrasive sponge to remove the rust and wash it with water.

[jarod]

Nice info bryant77.

So the 202 is what most shops offer then? What is usuallly used in pipes?

[bryant77]

Nice info bryant77.

So the 202 is what most shops offer then? What is usuallly used in pipes?

202 and 304 are common sa mga tindahan ng stainless steel. For threaded pipes and fittings T304 ang ginagamit.

There are several finishes on stainless steel. Mirror, Satin, 2B and hairline are the common one.

Stainless Steel best joined using TIG Welding.