Wood sources

[bbn]

I'd like to know where you guys buy your wood especially those for your "special" projects.

Woods available in big lumber stores are: Tangile and Yakal. However the term Tangile is actually a whole bunch of different kinds I've realized. I'm not an expert but it seems my favorite lumberyard calls the following all "tangile": Philippine Mahogany, Almon - red mahogany, Bagras - southern mohogany, Bagtican - white lauan.

I know about the store along Pioneer St. near Shaw. They sell Philippine (White) Teak , and Gmelia. I think they also have Ipil-ipil.

Where to you guys get your special wood?

[timber715]

I get my hardwoods from Cebu when I visit my MIL, ship it thru Sulpicio. there is a lumber store in Sucat where I get my regular wood, yes tanguile comes in different colors, density and kind. everything is classified as tanguile there... even the Goncalo Alves and Pernbuco which in a way is good since price is for regular wood and not for exotics.

[moji]

Sonny,
Is there regular pernambuco and goncalo in your sucat source?

[timber715]

Sonny,
Is there regular pernambuco and goncalo in your sucat source?
none, the pernbuco is only one piece of 2x4 and the goncalo alves were around 5-8 pieces only of 2x2... I got all of them... hehehehe :) even the twisted and bent ones...

[guad]

I know about the store along Pioneer St. near Shaw. They sell Philippine (White) Teak , and Gmelia. I think they also have Ipil-ipil.


I was under the impression that gmelina = white teak, and that Philippine teak is something else.

How about http://www.komodo-online.com/ which is also on Pioneer Street. Supposedly, they have teak (not white) from Indonesia (?), 650-800 kg/cu.m, 2 m typical. Been meaning to visit both stores, but so far haven't had a chance.

[spyghost]

just a plug-in question, what kind of wood is sold on regular hardware stores? i've been purchasing wood from these local hardwares and i just mention the size w/o knowing what kind of wood they sell... just wondering...

[bbn]

I was under the impression that gmelina = white teak, and that Philippine teak is something else.

How about http://www.komodo-online.com/ which is also on Pioneer Street. Supposedly, they have teak (not white) from Indonesia (?), 650-800 kg/cu.m, 2 m typical. Been meaning to visit both stores, but so far haven't had a chance.

They're definitely different bro. Gmelina is that stuff they make boxes out of, pretty but weak. Philippine Teak is oily and though not as good, it is a good substitute.

Thanks for the post I'll try to check it out on my lunch break next week.

[guad]

just a plug-in question, what kind of wood is sold on regular hardware stores? i've been purchasing wood from these local hardwares and i just mention the size w/o knowing what kind of wood they sell... just wondering...

How about asking the sales persons. Let us know what they say.

Taking 'tanguile' to be a generic term, I have seen or usually see --
untreated tanguile
untreated engineered <tanguile?>
untreated engineered falcata (or so I was told, noticeably less dense than tanguile)

treated tanguile
treated engineered <tanguile?>
treated pine

pre-primed <treated?> <engineered?> <tanguile?>

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engineered = laminated, finger-jointed

[telecaster]

hi guys hope you dont mind me posting questions here,

hi timb any idea where i can get real mahogany? or the Honduran mahogany species, im currently getting most of my woods from formaply from ash, to hard maple, prices are as follows for ash its 250 per bft while maple is 290-300 per bft and mahogany for 60 per bft from a friend

a friend also recommended a wood supplier near amoranto stadium sct. area havent checked it yet though they have flame maple in stock before, if you have other sources for maple and ash and mahogany that your willing to share please do post it here id really appreciate your recommendation

[timber715]

I have several pieces of Mahogany that I am currently not using, if you want I can trade some for some Maple stock :p. I get my Mahogany from Cebu and ship it here to Manila, there is actually a good amount of Mahogany there since some are grown in Bohol. I will be in Cebu this coming weekend, let me know what you need, I might (might) get some for myself as well....

[jarod]

Lately, I'm frustrated in looking for a wood store which could provide me of acceptable dimensions.

I have sampled two stores near my area and it's so frustrating when you get an undersized dimension from my expected under-size. To give you an example, i bought one with 1" thickness which I expect to only have a true thickness of 3/4. To my dismay, it only sizes to 5/8 which is almost have of what I needed!

To make matter worse, it is sometimes cupped or not parallel cut :(

I don't expect the next stores to have better as I expect all of them to just have one source of wood dealer. Are there stores who sell wood that are quite on the manageable quality?

[timber715]

meron, but not consistent. often where I buy my materials. 1 x 4" would usually measure 3/4 x 3 1/2". the store is in Sucat... :p

[luis isaac]

i got the same problem. changed hardware stores but still the same problem. so, i befriended the people from the first hardware and started complaining about the wood that they give me. so, now they would let me in their warehouse and i got to choose the wood that i buy. try it, worked for me.Lately, I'm frustrated in looking for a wood store which could provide me of acceptable dimensions.

I have sampled two stores near my area and it's so frustrating when you get an undersized dimension from my expected under-size. To give you an example, i bought one with 1" thickness which I expect to only have a true thickness of 3/4. To my dismay, it only sizes to 5/8 which is almost have of what I needed!

To make matter worse, it is sometimes cupped or not parallel cut :(

I don't expect the next stores to have better as I expect all of them to just have one source of wood dealer. Are there stores who sell wood that are quite on the manageable quality?

[guad]

Where to you guys get your special wood?

Baguio public market? Mines View Park? :eek:

There should be a wood identification or catalog thread. In the meantime...what is this chopping board made of? Seller said supplier said kalantas. Other stall said sampaloc. Other stall said ipil-ipil. Who knows.

If this is really kalantas, that would be good to know because that's what I am looking for. Supposedly kalantas is equivalent of western red cedar -- rot-resistant, good for exposure to water, and relatively light?

Below the chopping board are arnis sticks...a.k.a. kamagong dowels for the desperate? P100 per 29 inches. Also available in anahaw (bahi ng), kalantas, molave, rattan/yantok. Seems handmade so may need cleanup with a roundover bit depending on required tolerance.

Arnis sticks go for ~$30+/pair on Amazon. :eek: I wonder if the stick makers use a dowel making jig (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/showthread.php?t=433&highlight=metal+working&page=8). Doesn't look like they do.

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[jarod]

I have also thought of that before, buy those cheap local products that are made of wood and use them as alternative to hard-to-find or hard-to-buy-in-small-quantity kind of wood.

[luis isaac]

hey why not. great idea! maka-punta na nga sa palengke...

[ernie_serrano]

Timber, how do you get the wood to manila? and how much does the mohogany cost per board ft? baka if di hassel pa bili ako from you when you go to Cebu. pasabay sa pag bii mo

[owyn]

@ GUAD


=). Same modus operandi. Bought some chopping boards at Divisioria years back and made the crappiest stool (good for when doing laundry.)

Most chopping boards and laundry palo-palo are sampaloc or gmelina. Got a tray that's made of a calantas (supposedly, the "calantas" a luthier/mentor got from cebu was different too) and it's richer in color, but as light as sampaloc. They say toona calantas has a strong fragrance... hmm i'll rasp and smell it when i get back to my hometown.


Is this the same thread that someone asked about laong laan? It's a minute away from UST, and in the vicinity of the train tracks. Awful prices at 250 per b.f. and well undersized... i never went there again. Such a shame cause they have a lot of stock... sampaloc do have a high concentration of old houses.

[serendipity]

I would like to know if you have a supplier of ipil wood. Thank you very much for your help.

[jarod]

I would like to know if you have a supplier of ipil wood. Thank you very much for your help.

Hi serendipity, Welcome to PHM! Let's wait for others to chime in about your inquiry.

For the mean time, we wold appreciate if you could share something on the "Member's Introduction" thread. We love hearing from most people we meet :)

[serendipity]

Are you familiar with the wood " malarojas"? Mas maganda pa raw yan sa tangile according to one of the supplier. I cannot find ipil wood supplier in bulk. So im thinking of malarojas instead. What other kind of woods would you recommend for flooring and furniture business? Thanks for the help.

[guad]

I cannot find ipil wood supplier in bulk.

Did you call the supplier mentioned in the very first post of this thread, Rose Industries on Pioneer St., 631-1315/17/18 ?

Policarpio 2nd Hand Lumber, 658-8737 ?
which has its own thread: Taytay wood source (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/showthread.php?t=1000)

Formaply ?
mentioned earlier in this thread and in another (http://pinoyhandyman.com/showthread.php?t=841)

Other places that have been suggested: Hardwood lumber sources (i.e., narra , yakal , ipil, etc.) (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/showthread.php?t=252)

There are many more. The above are only and most of what has been named so far.

Let us know what you find out.

What other kind of woods would you recommend for flooring and furniture business?

Local bamboo is supposed to be environmentally in nowadays, if you are adventurous and up to the learning challenge. There's a P10 billion 'requirement' just for school desks, according to this (http://balita.ph/2010/02/20/pgma-and-dti-official-turn-over-25-bamboo-desks-to-diego-ortiz-elementary-school-in-pangasinan/).

[willyfernando]

Are you familiar with the wood " malarojas"? Mas maganda pa raw yan sa tangile according to one of the supplier. I cannot find ipil wood supplier in bulk. So im thinking of malarojas instead. What other kind of woods would you recommend for flooring and furniture business? Thanks for the help.

Hi serendipity, maybe I could help with your wood source problem. I have Black Walnut, African Teak, some local Hardwoods like Yakal and Guijo as well as NKD. I keep an inventory of these species for my clients but would be glad to help you with your project needs. Just send me an email of what you require. [email protected]