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spyghost
04-27-2010, 12:37 PM
hi,

in the absence of a 90 degree clamp, how would you ensure a perpendicular assembly of a screwed butt jointed 2x4? sorry for the terms, used because they sound nasty...

what i am currently thinking is this:
- clamp 2 squares on the ouside or inside of the joined pieces - ensures that pieces are perpendicular
- clamp 2 straight edges on top and under - ensures levelness of joined pieces

any other ideas?

JayL
04-27-2010, 01:30 PM
Can you not fabricate some Clamp It assembly squares like this out of wood first? You can always use those later for other projects.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10113&filter=right%20angle

timber715
04-27-2010, 04:11 PM
this is what I use when I make carcasses, should work for you as well, it is just a piece of SQUARED scrap plywood with two holes for the clamp heads to hold onto.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/squareblock.png

timber715
04-28-2010, 05:42 PM
or just a square block like this....
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/IMG_0838-1.jpg

bbn
04-28-2010, 06:28 PM
I'm assuming the screws will pull the joint together, so the clamps are just to get the perpendicular pieces square. If I assume correctly then about just bracing the two pieces with a diagonal piece after using a square to true them? This is how the carpenters do it.

I have some pretty lousy miter clamps that I seldom use anymore. If ever I do you them it is only to keep the assembly reasonably together while I true everything up with a square and put in braces, screws or nails.

JayL
04-28-2010, 10:44 PM
I've always wondered how good this clamp design can be.

http://www.amazon.com/Kreg-KHC-90DCC-90-degree-Corner-Clamp/dp/B001DCEN4I/ref=xs_gb_20_left-3_7_B001DCEN4I?pf_rd_p=451293501&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DHPSZ0KB3WCXSR7PK6M

In my experience having 90 deg clamping tools can be really useful for novices. It makes things a lot easier.

Too bad we don't get much easier access to these. 90 degree Clamp ITs are now on sale at rockler for only $6 each. Best price I've seen these go on sale.

I purchased a few pieces before to try and test and had regretted not purchasing more. These are what I managed to get. Two small and two big ones. To be really effective I reckon 4 of each size is needed.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1067.jpg

A flat working surface helps a lot too.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1723.jpg


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1751.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1740.jpg

jarod
04-29-2010, 12:12 AM
Thanks for sharing your pics. It's really a lot better to see some things in action to get a better grasp on how they work and probably appreciate it more then.

JayL
04-29-2010, 12:41 AM
Thanks for bringing the subject up too. Now I'm thinking to weld some scrap angles bars to make 90 deg Clamp Its but for welding purposes. I just don't know if I could easily make these be truly 90 deg. Anyway I'll try when I get the chance.

timber715
04-29-2010, 12:50 AM
Thanks for bringing the subject up too. Now I'm thinking to weld some scrap angles bars to make 90 deg Clamp Its but for welding purposes. I just don't know if I could easily make these be truly 90 deg. Anyway I'll try when I get the chance.

oh you can Jay, can I review a pair? lol... hahahaha

spyghost
04-29-2010, 08:49 AM
group buy? :) i am open for this option if ever any other members wish to purchase