midnight club...

[timber715]

tambayan ng mga aswang....
anyone still awake?

[timber715]

moji, still up?

[moji]

hehe yup.. just finished playing in the workshop..

[timber715]

wala ba tayong gimmick? eb tayo ulit... :)

[JayL]

Regular member here.

[timber715]

Hey, Jay...

[moji]

oo nga, kelan next eb? Matagal pa yata yung next bosch seminar..

[timber715]

how about field trip tayo sa Pansol? hehehe well priced Dao hunting expedition...

[moji]

Game ako diyan! Yun nga lng makikisabay ako kasi wala ako sariling auto. I'll gladly chip in the gas though.. I need a board to serve as drawer fronts and im thinking a long piece of dao would be nice.

[timber715]

tignan natin next week, oops next, next week pala... cebu ako next weekend, yellowheart hunting ako ulit :)

[timber715]

ganda ng yellowheart, made something like a picture frame for planar speakers...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_1009.jpg
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_1000.jpg

[moji]

Oh sana next week yung field trip..wala ako this weekend..beach time!:cool:

[timber715]

ano kaya bago sa Bosch eb? hmmm....

[moji]

I saw your wips for those in the other site. Very nice wood! Hehe kung madami ka mabili sa cebu, bili ako konti sayo. Just to try out..

[moji]

ano kaya bago sa Bosch eb? hmmm....

Bagong powertools cguro ;) hahah

[timber715]

I have extra in Paco, visit me there... bring badminton gear. if you beat me in a game of 1 to 15, plus 12 ka na, you can get some for free... :)

[timber715]

Bagong stock ng jig saw blades cguro ;)
hahahahaha. ssshh, edit mo yun hehehhe

[moji]

I have extra in Paco, visit me there... bring badminton gear. if you beat me in a game of 1 to 15, plus 12 ka na, you can get some for free...

Hahahah! heart attack abot ko nyan! Wala na ko excercise ngayon e.. Besides i don't know how to play badminton..:p

[timber715]

puro b_dminton ka yata kasi eh... hahahaha

[moji]

hehehe...cge, matutulog na ako. tommorrow uli..

[timber715]

see you later...
cheers

[JayL]

Huh ... kumain lang ako sandali pag balik ko 3 pages na to.

Bakit yung ibang forums me mga chat room? Baka tayo pwede din.

Na pu puyat ako lagi sa ebay US. Nag test na ko ng several purchases. Daming mura dito. :)

[timber715]

hahaha, dami ka yatang kinain eh... lets hope we can have that chat room feature... maybe lncc can help in that field....

[timber715]

good morning na ulit mga brothers....

[moji]

eto nanaman tayo sa tambayan tuwing umaga..haha

[beebeenator]

zzzzzz broke scroll saw blades zzzzz

I am just glad i havent broken anything that will whizz as fast as the freeway's speed limit :)

[moji]

having fun with the scrollsaw i see..i hope could get one of those..but no budget yet.

[timber715]

Ben when you have the time, I can show you where to get decent priced skip tooth scrollsaw blades...

[jarod]

Quirino represent!

Ben update mo kami parati sa scroll saw mo ha. I'm interested as well in getting one in the near future. Kung may *murang* DeWalt lang sana sa pinas.

[timber715]

uy Jarod, sino ba nakakuha ng LI-ON na screwdriver sa bosch? si Ramon ba at ikaw?

[jarod]

Yep me and bobbypage1!

[timber715]

Yep me and bobbypage1!
swerte talaga... di bale next time ako na...

[jarod]

Actually 2nd time ko pa lang manalo sa raffle sa buong buhay ko kaya mejo natuwa din ako.

Ayon sa mga bali-balita hindi ka naman daw talaga umuwing luhaan last time eh :p

[timber715]

Actually 2nd time ko pa lang manalo sa raffle sa buong buhay ko kaya mejo natuwa din ako.

Ayon sa mga bali-balita hindi ka naman daw talaga umuwing luhaan last time eh :p
sa tutoo lang, hindi pa ako nakakarating dun, panalo na ko... :)
bakit gising ka pa pala?

[bobbypage1]

Yep me and bobbypage1!

Congrats uli, Jarod
Magkatabi pa tayo ng silya when we won. Cguro next time may raffle tabi tayo uli. Baka may "cosmic" effect.....

Tabi din tayo kay Timber para sure panalo. And, timber sir, sharing unselfishly your expertise is really a sure winner, in my book....

[beebeenator]

Ben when you have the time, I can show you where to get decent priced skip tooth scrollsaw blades...

That'll be great! i will have a list of stuff down for you to show me. :)

[timber715]

That'll be great! i will have a list of stuff down for you to show me. :)
sige Ben, send me the list so I can check where they are, if I don't know yet...

[timber715]

chisel,
what side play are you getting on your drill press? start a thread on it and let us see what is wrong...

[Armand]

I have extra in Paco, visit me there... bring badminton gear. if you beat me in a game of 1 to 15, plus 12 ka na, you can get some for free... :)



Hi timber, you still play badminton?..i stopped playing 2 1/2 years ago but i'm still interested. Hope to play with you someday.

[timber715]

Hi timber, you still play badminton?..i stopped playing 2 1/2 years ago but i'm still interested. Hope to play with you someday.
come play with us tonight. 8pm till midnight... we will be having potluck night since somebody is celebrating her birthday...

[jarod]

sa tutoo lang, hindi pa ako nakakarating dun, panalo na ko... :)
bakit gising ka pa pala?Sorry for the late reply, my notebook lost all its juice and I;m already tired to fetch the power cable. I'm usually up til 2-3AM :)

Congrats uli, Jarod
Magkatabi pa tayo ng silya when we won. Cguro next time may raffle tabi tayo uli. Baka may "cosmic" effect.....

Tabi din tayo kay Timber para sure panalo. And, timber sir, sharing unselfishly your expertise is really a sure winner, in my book....Oo nga sir bobbypage, di mo akalain na magkatabi pa yung nanalo. Super suspense pa! See you soon again!!! more cosmic powers to us!

[timber715]

anyone look at the moon tonight?
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/moon.jpg

[timber715]

the moon has inspired me to start a personal workshop project... anyone familiar with this?
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_1111.jpg

[jarod]

Lemme guess....is that a wooden CMS miter base replacement for the Skil? You're thinking ahead ha! Haha, just kidding!

Seriously I think that is a moon inspired personal wood project that I'm not familiar with yet! Nyahaha! (Pardon my insanity, the moon affects my behavior at times. Peace tayo sir timber715) ;)

[timber715]

Lemme guess....is that a wooden CMS miter base replacement for the Skil? You're thinking ahead ha! Haha, just kidding!

Seriously I think that is a moon inspired personal wood project that I'm not familiar with yet! Nyahaha! (Pardon my insanity, the moon affects my behavior at times. Peace tayo sir timber715) ;)
thats is ok Jarod, no, that isn't for the cms top.... although it does resembles it. clue: it sucks... :)

[timber715]

btw, I'm sure Moji needs this and Bee would want to make one too...

[beebeenator]

ermmmm lemme guess

pancake? :) or a CMS angle calibration thingy?

[timber715]

ok, it is the baffle of a Phil Thein dust separator....

[beebeenator]

now that reminds me..

I need a phil thein for my shopvac

[timber715]

now that reminds me..

I need a phil thein for my shopvac
see I told you you need one... :)

[bobbypage1]

{QOUTE=Oo nga sir bobbypage, di mo akalain na magkatabi pa yung nanalo. Super suspense pa! See you soon again!!! more cosmic powers to us![/QUOTE]

See you again too, Jarod. Hope the moon last night inspired you to do some creative woodworks.....

[bobbypage1]

anyone look at the moon tonight?
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/moon.jpg

Nice shot Sir Timber....

[guad]

Is that a planet or star? Seems unusually big/bright/isolated for a star.

[bbn]

I was winding down in the shop when my wife called me to see it. I think the start on top was the North Star ... just guessing though but it was very bright and it was in the north.

What is that thing, Timber? Is a top for the scrollsaw? I'll probably be making one too soon. Was working on the scrollsaw to wind down, thinking of what needs to be fixed or upgraded.

[bbn]

Was mistaken ... the bright object above the moon was Venus.

[timber715]

Was mistaken ... the bright object above the moon was Venus.
yup, twas Venus...
http://www.astroleaguephils.org/archive/news/100516ven_occ-mla-a.jpg (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/[img%20width=500%20height=381]http://www.astroleaguephils.org/archive/news/100516ven_occ-mla-a.jpg)

[timber715]

I was winding down in the shop when my wife called me to see it. I think the start on top was the North Star ... just guessing though but it was very bright and it was in the north.

What is that thing, Timber? Is a top for the scrollsaw? I'll probably be making one too soon. Was working on the scrollsaw to wind down, thinking of what needs to be fixed or upgraded.
it is just a piece of 18mm MDF to raise the cut portion on the unused part of the scrollsaw blade...

[timber715]

welcome back Moji, after a weekend of sand and se its now back to work for you... ;)

[moji]

welcome back Moji, after a weekend of sand and se its now back to work for you...

thanks! Sarap mag beach talaga..

Hehehe! Btw, is that the baffle for my phil thein?;)

[timber715]

thanks! Sarap mag beach talaga..

Hehehe! Btw, is that the baffle for my phil thein?;)
hahahaha, not yet. unless you don't mind a small one, I can make two at the same time...

[moji]

you found a drum already? How small is that one btw?

[timber715]

will be using a detergent container, smallish dedicated for ts duties lang...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_1109-1.jpg

[moji]

will be using a detergent container, smallish dedicated for ts duties lang...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_1109-1.jpg

Hmm small nga lang no..cge hanap na lang muna ng mas malaking container.

[timber715]

double that amount would definitely be better, I can get away using a plastic container bec it is small, any bigger will tend to collapse with vacuum.

[timber715]

wondering how Ricky did with the loaner drill from Bosch, sana hindi tumama sa water pipes or the like...:p:p:p

[timber715]

good morning Louis...

[bbn]

Good morning Sonny. Have you slept yet? I'm usually asleep by 11pm and awake at 5am.

[timber715]

Good morning Sonny. Have you slept yet? I'm usually asleep by 11pm and awake at 5am.
nope, no sleep yet. I am usually awake till 4am and asleep till lunch... pangabi ako kasi...;)

[timber715]

matulog na ang aswang... goodnight Louis....

[timber715]

good morning na ulit... tulog na lahat????

[beebeenator]

kaka install ko lang ng hepa filter sa laminar cabinet zzzzzz

got back home a little late, nag o.t. ako ... kasi late ako ... so not really an o.t. :)

[moji]

gising pa ko..mukang slow day today ah..

[timber715]

I did lots today. made base for my grinder, arranged my storage area, got the PT pictures and cleaned the workplace... I still need to re-sharpen the no.4 blade...

[moji]

sabagay.. got to finally work on a wooden box that is way overdue.. somehow when it comes to personal projects, i tend to take so long in building them..

[timber715]

lol, two of my personal projects took a year to complete...

[timber715]

I got feedback about the Bosch TS
GTS 10 Prof. - Table saw SRP PhP 43,800
seems like a decent price, I looked the saw online and it is 220V and works as well as the 4100 which is 110V.
Golden wanted to know if people would rather get a 220V or 110V since a transformer is needed for it.
from what I have seen, the 4100 is ahead only with the riving knife, build is basically the same though...

[moji]

How big a difference would the saw be without the riving knife?

[timber715]

basically... nothing that I am aware of. plus you get the warranty and support from Bosch Phils.

[moji]

I have never used a table saw before, what is the role of the riving knife anyway?

[timber715]

what I think is the biggest advantage of a riving knife compared to a splitter is during dado or non thru cuts, otherwise they work the same way...

[moji]

i see, but if routers get to do the bulk of dadoes then i guess its fine to get one without the riving knife...hehe gotta start saving up!

[timber715]

btw, the 4100 has a safety fork as well... haven't used it for a while since I shift from thru to non thru cuts often...

[moji]

I'm guessing the portable stand is not included with the model that is going to e available here?

[timber715]

in fact here is the letter from Golden with the suggested prices...
Good day Sir,

Below are the prices of the following Bosch saw and workbench (please give us feedback from the members):

GTS 10 Prof. - Table saw SRP PhP 43,800
GTA 3700 Prof. - Work bench SRP PhP 24,000
GTA 2500 W Prof. - Transport and work bench SRP 31,200
GTA 60 W Prof. - Transport and work bench SRP 18,900

As for the USA specification of the table saw 4100, the business unit might not bring it here in the Phil., because its voltage requirement is 110.
But please let us know if its really one of the table saw that the DIY group is trying to acquire, then we will ask our Brand Manager to help us get the best price for the group.

Thanks and best regards,
BeQIK

Golden B. Maranan
PT/SPH-TR

[timber715]

Jarod, will you be playing bukas? I will return your Baby G na...

[jarod]

Jarod, will you be playing bukas? I will return your Baby G na...
Yep, will be there tom este later na pala :p

[timber715]

great, see you later... will be in late though... ano projects mo? post ka naman...

[timber715]

telecaster, you still there? I have the Mahogany with me now... it is 1 3/4" x 8" x 4' rough...

[beebeenator]

hmmmm

group buy group buy group buy!!!! (discount discount discount, poor na si new father eh) Rolly save up for this nalang Kahit magiging for sale yung jet TS ko i stgill WOULD not recommend you buying mine! :)

I commend on Bosch for actually listening to a seemingly small community like us. P"ls send my regard to Golden too

Golden if you are reading this, which i bet you are..

hindi ba kaya flat 40K? and and and pag group buy ng 5 or more 20% off . HAHAHAH

:)

[timber715]

why not start a list of those interested in the TS Ben, then we will talk with Golden...

[beebeenator]

ah yes i shall do that.. make a new thread :)

[timber715]

Jarod, thanks for the baby G ha...I really appreciate it :)
cheers

[beebeenator]

cant sleep. too tired from work... i have a sort of opposite reaction to overwork.

also maybe because i am obsession over planning on how to slap a new surface on my TS.... Hinihintay ko nalang yung pag miter slot ni lncc or bbn (nalito rin ako eh :)) on his GMC table saw with shopmade top

[JayL]

Too many tool purchase by members lately .... slow posting on reviews :(

[beebeenator]

ahhah true.

i havent been using any of my new tools :P

[timber715]

midnight na pala, I just about to have dinner... lol

[timber715]

Jarod,
for ts's, I suggest you try out Ben's Jet, when the second Bosch sem, I will bring mine.... :) that will make you even more confused... hahahaha

[timber715]

Hey Migs... wassup?

[moji]

hehe ikaw nalang gising?

[timber715]

as usual...:p

[beebeenator]

Jarod,
for ts's, I suggest you try out Ben's Jet, when the second Bosch sem, I will bring mine.... :) that will make you even more confused... hahahaha


hehehe let me put it this way.... if i was to sell my saw.. i wouldnt even wanna sell it to a friend... or even an acquaintance! For an enemy.... maybe.... :)

actually baka maibigay ko to sa kinaiinisan kong tao... the only problem i have left is the table surface not being flat... ok lang if its not flat in the parallel orientation of the blade but in this case the Non-flatness is on the perpendicular orientation of the blade which simple screws up your rips and cross cut and what not

the Bump in the table is from the miter slots!!! JEEEZ... BOTH MITER SLOTS!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

... lalalala think Hapi Tots :)

[timber715]

yeah, I remember when violaine had the same concern about his Jet ts... I believe he said that he hardly cut small pieces(anything less than 4" wide I think) on it bec it scares the s@$^( out of him... hahahaha.

[timber715]

Louis, can a chat feature be integrated on this site?

[beebeenator]

hahahah well i am cutting pieces as thin as one inch (go push stick , yung mas maganda compared sa iyo diba? hahahah) My ZCI does decently too.

The problem is when my stock's width passes over the miter slot. thats when the squaredness scews up. Coz the blade is squared reference on the table BEFORE the miter slot... so when i WANT to rip sheet goods... i cant grrr

[timber715]

why not install a flat metal or aluminum sheet so you won't loose much on depth of cut and forget the miter slot?

[beebeenator]

i did thinkk about that... but i really love the crosscut sled... it makes me awesome tenons heheheh

[timber715]

oo nga pala, you need those slots for the boat... :)

[beebeenator]

boat? :) ?

[timber715]

another term for a crosscut sled or sled for that matter... boat....

[timber715]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45KEblc8JE&feature=related (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/%3Cobject%20width=)

[moji]

Ei sonny,

Finally got to use the leigh jig for dovetails! haha! Just going out and doing it does make it simpler than the manual makes it out to be. Had fun doing it.

What do you use to make the router slide more smoothly on the jig? I tried candlewax, which works but only for a while..

[jarod]

This is the nerdiest jig that I've ever seen. Listening to the guy makes me wonder if he really is a woodworker or a nerd este engineer. Jowk!

Quick-set tenon jig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_BB7uwmPFY)

[timber715]

Ei sonny,

Finally got to use the leigh jig for dovetails! haha! Just going out and doing it does make it simpler than the manual makes it out to be. Had fun doing it.

What do you use to make the router slide more smoothly on the jig? I tried candlewax, which works but only for a while..
Johnson's floorwax what else? :)

[moji]

Johnson's floorwax what else? :)

It won't cause finishing problems on the wood?

[timber715]

It won't cause finishing problems on the wood?
No it shouldn't. you put wax on the fingers and the router base, both of which will not contact the wood anyway...

[moji]

Ay tama, forgot the fingers..

[timber715]

Ay tama, forgot the fingers..
btw, after waxing those, hold the router firm, it tends to slide very easy :)

[timber715]

anyone with a conference table design? got a commission for one coming soon...

[moji]

btw, after waxing those, hold the router firm, it tends to slide very easy :)

Good idea.. this box making using the leigh jig is getting addicting hehe.. got to prepare more stock..

[timber715]

unless you have a dedicated space for the Leigh, it is the setting up and putting aside that is the pain. otherwise it is a terrific tool.

[moji]

And if you only have one router to use for the jig and the RT..bigger pain!

[timber715]

And if you only have one router to use for the jig and the RT..bigger pain!
I know what you mean, been there...

[timber715]

anyone has a conference table design?, hey Jay wassup?

[JayL]

All ok. Busy konti. I'm having a condo in Eastwood City renovated.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0362.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0354.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0369.jpg

[timber715]

nice work bro, galing mo na gumawa ah... tahimik ka lang pero mukhang panay ang practice ah... :)

[jarod]

Thanks again timber.

Night, este morning guys. signing out...

[timber715]

hehehe... yw Jarod.

I'm in Cebu na, now what? lol

[JayL]

Check in Cebu. Maybe lots of good stuff.

http://www.belmonttools.com/

[timber715]

nice link Jay, I will visit the store today to check on Minmax machines. hope they have a decent bandsaw... :) couldn't open thier pdf files from here.
will look for mahogany too, the conference table commissioned will require around 200++ bd.ft. of it...

[moji]

that is a whole lot of mahogany that you need..do you have a final design already?

[timber715]

yup Migs, the design I made requires me 200 bd ft by local calculations... was able to get around 250bdft already, rough but oversized which is preferred in my opinion since I hardly encounter an s4s to be properly correct in size... some pieces were even 2 1/2" thick, by approximation I believe I should end with roughly 1 1/2" thickness for the finished parts... which is a lot better than buying 2 x 10" and having it at 1 5/8" x 9 3/4" and after cleaning ends up to 1 x 8 1/2"...
I see my muscles to improve once I start this project.... who wants to learn how to properly use your handplanes? :)

[moji]

Big guns ka na nyan pagkatapos! Hehe but don't you have a thicknesser? :p

did you source all your mahogany in cebu?

[JayL]

Timb you need a jointer na and the new shop. Conference table malaki na yan.

Did you find anything in Belmonttools?

I did email Bosch to check the sizes of the feed supports. If not possible I'm checking out some small items so I can hopefully join you in the waiting time. :)

[beebeenator]

I want to see how you (timber) handle a 250 bd Ft worth of table around :)

[timber715]

hey guys...
yes Moji the thicknesser is around, but I am almost certain that there will be plenty of handplane work to be done...
Jay, yes a jointer would be a great idea now and maybe even better when the shop becomes available, but 6" ones won't cut it with these stocks, I would need no less than 12" for that matter.... something beyond my budget for the next 5 years...
I did find some bandsaws, mostly available from New Triumph in recto but in display and in full view. I did find one that had a 10 to 12" cutting capacity but it costs 115K, I am not sure if it was from AEG but is made in Germany.
there were Bessey's available but only in 8' and 9' models (yes they are 8 and 9 FEET clamps), there was one pc that had a 16" capacity but it was old and beat...
their powertool line is quite impressive and the prices ar quite comparative to manila prices, some items binondo priced pa....
Ben,
handling 200bdft isn't difficult, just find two helpers... ehehehe, but once I start on it, I see a lot of back pains. hahahaha.
I now am planning to build a thicknessser sled since I have no plans for a big jointer yet....a thicknesser stand and a guide system for it too...

[timber715]

hey Migs, join mo ko ha pag wala kang ginagawa ha, looking for a biscuit cutter soon, thinking Ryobi... :)
yes, all mahogany is sourced in Cebu, shipping will be a killer but included in my quotation already. the design Moji is very very simple, a pair of crosses for the legs and flat top... thas it!

[moji]

Sure!, san mo balak maghanap nung biscuit cutter?

No problem naman pala yung shipping basta kasama sa quotation..

[timber715]

will try to ask Rolly if he can acquire one for me, biscuit na lang kulang... I meant join me handplaning hahahahahahaha....

[moji]

ooohhh!! No problem! That would would be fun... How will you go about making the table anyway? Top like your workbench?

[beebeenator]

ahhh helpers :) heheh medyo snob kasi ako when i work. For whatever reason i always prefer to di it on my own... maybe some deep seated emotional blah blah

I will be looking forward to your thicknesser sled and guide. I will wait for you before i make one :)

[timber715]

I have always worked on my own, getting help from my wife if I needed an extra hand, but this one I don't think I can manage alone, a single slab of mahogany weighs 30kls or more, I will use no less than 7 for the top... you can just imagine the weigh I will be carrying nearing completion. All I would be needing are helpers to carry anyway. I will not allow others to touch on this to prevent accidental damages... well, maybe Moji and if you are willing will allow you too... :)
I will be building the table and sled as soon as I land in Manila.... am at the airport now in Cebu...

[moji]

that is going to be a very heavy table indeed. How do you plan on transporting the table? You might need those transport trucks with a crane!

[JayL]

Will it fit in the elevator? My idea is that Timber lives on a high rise building.

Probably transport it disassembled. Just like Bee did to his project. :)

[timber715]

hehehe, I do have access to a delivery truck, the top will be removable from the legs. most of the work will be done at the badminton court since there is no way for it to fit the elevator (rough or completed). the legs could be made here at home though but the top will be both a joy and pain to make.
will draw the sketch-up tonight...
here is what I got, phone pics lang nga...
most are 8 to 10" wide and around 2 1/2 to 3" thick, lengths are 7 and 9 feet...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0501.jpg
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0513.jpg

[timber715]

its good to be home!!! :)

[bbn]

Nice wood. You brought these on the plane?

[timber715]

Nice wood. You brought these on the plane?
I wish... lol, Nope they will be shipped withing a week or two, flight freight price would probably cost more than the materials...

[beebeenator]

thats ALOT of planing to do.

and i would not dare touch anything you guys are working on. I am still clumsy hehehe

[timber715]

thats ALOT of planing to do.

and i would not dare touch anything you guys are working on. I am still clumsy hehehe

hehehe, don't worry, we'll teach you how to use a scrub plane and a jointer plane... bring alaxan if you intend to learn... hahahaha

[moji]

Daming mahogany! Are you transferring your workbench to the badminton court to work on those or just saw horses?

[timber715]

Daming mahogany! Are you transferring your workbench to the badminton court to work on those or just saw horses?
nope, will make iether a plywood wb or just sawhorses... so much preparation needed before the wood arrives... here is another... DESIGN... I promised the guy that I will provide the leg to look like A, which can be arranged either as a + or x... I wanted another design which is B and has three segments instead of four. work is a bit more demanding but seems nicer... I need your comments...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conference2.png
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conference1.png
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conference.png
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conference3.png
bottomline comes from the customer of course but I like your options...

[moji]

I like the legs of option B more than that of option A..i also think that people's knees/ legs wouldn't hit as much with option B..

[timber715]

thanks Moji, I actually like B better too, but the A model can be configured to have the same orientation as B... also A is a straightforward build while B poses extra challenges...
did I mention it will have a pop up receptacle for power?
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0486.jpg

[timber715]

here is the revised A with the legs configured as X
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conferenceX.png
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/conferenceX1.png

[rolly]

thanks Moji, I actually like B better too, but the A model can be configured to have the same orientation as B... also A is a straightforward build while B poses extra challenges...
did I mention it will have a pop up receptacle for power?
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0486.jpg

nice timber, lagyan mo din data ports. . .

[moji]

Somehow i find the legs of option A a bit heavy/cluttered looking than B. But yeah it is harder to construct than option A. Has your client decided on the design already?

[timber715]

actually pwede syang lagyan ng data ports. configurable sya...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0487.jpg
and another color would be aluminum...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0488.jpg

[timber715]

Somehow i find the legs of option A a bit heavy/cluttered looking than B. But yeah it is harder to construct than option A. Has your client decided on the design already?
we have actually agreed on the design in words, but I will present him this designs so he has options before he gives the downpayment. but it is a sure thing since I have bought the materials already as per text communication... will just make it formal...
the A design actually gices the one seated at the end to have the table legs between his legs for deeper seating... it was the design element the customer wanted. will just present him a picture so he would have an idea how it will go....

[moji]

I see..haha i bet your excited about this one..this is one big project.. What finish are you planning on using?

[timber715]

I see..haha i bet your excited about this one..this is one big project.. What finish are you planning on using?
sprayed Dark Mahogany stain and probably poly or clear lacquer... not decided yet, but it will get a satin finish...

[timber715]

why won't I be, I charged an arm and a leg for this one... and I got a nod :p

[JayL]

I hope this project gets it's own thread so as to consolidate all info. I'm sure we could all learn a lot from this.

[moji]

Sprayed stain? This i want to see..i've never tried that before.

[timber715]

I hope this project gets it's own thread so as to consolidate all info. I'm sure we could all learn a lot from this.
it will Jay, but it won't be so complicated, just big... :) and very heavy...
the build will result with plenty templates and jigs I reckon, plus some tool mods for work-arounds...
Moji, same lang naman, mas madali lang at even pag sprayed... :)

[moji]

why won't I be, I charged an arm and a leg for this one... and I got a nod

That's great! This would also get your name going around once people get to see the table..

Would you still need to wipe the stain after you spray it?

[timber715]

That's great! This would also get your name going around once people get to see the table..

Would you still need to wipe the stain after you spray it?
yes, otherwise it will dry in 5 days... hehehehee.
I might prep the top with either sanding sealer (oil) or tung oil just to have an even color including the edges....

[moji]

Have you tried the NGR stain of Sphero? Based on its consistency i think it was meant to be sprayed..

[timber715]

Have you tried the NGR stain of Sphero? Based on its consistency i think it was meant to be sprayed..
haven't tried either, did have a chance to use several, will check their brands, so far it is ACE's stain that is my best pick...

[timber715]

brb, will just grab a drink...

[timber715]

now looking at building a thicknesser stand and table sled....

[timber715]

btw, the Mahogany I got,... it was tested with a moisture meter... reads 6%... :)

[moji]

Wow! that is pretty dry wood..a moisture meter is probably one thing i will get in the future..

[timber715]

Wow! that is pretty dry wood..a moisture meter is probably one thing i will get in the future..
the moisture meter they had was professional type, with built in hammer for depth and better results... there are cheap types already available locally for less than 2K...

[timber715]

oh, oh, and the source has a good amount of Mahogany in stock...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0496.jpg
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0495.jpg
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/X0498.jpg
and they have their own kiln drying oven too... I was told that it takes 25 days for the proper dryness is achieved, with a 6% moisture, I believe them...

[moji]

Are the moisture meters available here adjustable?

How i wish there were suppliers with stock like that here..How long did it take you to choose your pieces? hehe..

[timber715]

Are the moisture meters available here adjustable?

How i wish there were suppliers with stock like that here..How long did it take you to choose your pieces? hehe..
not sure what you mean adjustable...
the guy did the choosing for me, I told him I needed the dimensions and without insects and checks... with a forklift he plowed to the closest dimesions that fits my requirement. and with his buddy, took us another 30 minutes to go through his stock, most were passing already, we just went through his stock just to get the best ones that we can get.... these men were very friendly and very industrious, no complain nor any action that signified it. they were quite happy as we went through their stock. he even told me which to choose and some tips on how to avoid young and wet wood....

[timber715]

sign out muna ako bro... catch you again later...
cheers

[moji]

Adjustable meaning the specific gravity of the wood can be changed in the moisture meter.

[timber715]

good morning guys... with the conference table legs getting more difficult with a 3 winged design, I would probably stick with a 4 wing design....

[timber715]

good morning na ulit... :)

[moji]

Ang bilis talaga ng araw..

[timber715]

hindi naman, tagal dumating ng Mahogany dito eh, pati shipments ko wala pa rin... hehehehe though most items are already arriving sa shipper ko...

[moji]

When are you expecting the mahogany to arrive?

[timber715]

earliest next week...

[moji]

Ilang tulog nalang! hehe!

Im curious how the top will be constructed, will you be using breadboards?

[timber715]

Ilang tulog nalang! hehe!

Im curious how the top will be constructed, will you be using breadboards?
not in the plan, but pwede rin naman para lang mas madali i-finish...

[moji]

Will it be easier with the breadboards? I thought that would add more difficulty to it?

[timber715]

it will certainly add to the level of building difficulty, but will make finishing much easier since end-grain will be reduced...

[timber715]

what up guys?

[timber715]

Kreg, kreg, kreg... go moji go!... hahahahaha

[moji]

Pautang! haha.. In that model you showed me, what clamp do you use?

[JayL]

Don't procrastinate on the Kreg. This is one hell of a tool specially that Timber has a local source for screws.

Me I'm thinking about this one. Knipex ( pronounced ki nipex ). However the other models I want are 4 weeks delivery time. Arguably the best German made pliers around.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X4J2EI/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

This site has a complete lineup.

http://www.aktoolsonline.com/newcobra.html

[timber715]

Pautang! haha.. In that model you showed me, what clamp do you use?
ikaw pa? I use lockjaw for hold down clamp, works great too...
tama si Jay... it is a helluva tool Migs...

[timber715]

hay naku Jay, tool collecting mode ka nanaman no? heheheh

[JayL]

Do you guys think that Tools from US ( Powercraft / Torq ) will be the future Grizzly of the Philippines? Look at their products. Still more
robust than what Torq has.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/P1010160a.jpg

Maybe Timber will need a Bandsaw for his new project :)

[moji]

Yup, its in my to buy list..although i dont know when il get it haha!

Yup, i like the knipex brand too..although i dont own one yet.. You know where i can get one locally? I want the end cutters..

[timber715]

Do you guys think that Tools from US ( Powercraft / Torq ) will be the future Grizzly of the Philippines? Look at their products. Still more
robust than what Torq has.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/P1010160a.jpg

Maybe Timber will need a Bandsaw for his new project :)
oh yes Jay, I need a bandsaw on ALL my projects. hahahaha, I did see the electric beckam bandsaw
and it is in my wishlist (115K) and will stay a wish. :)
that is a cool looking sander, but that is grizzly, haven't seen the torq yet, got a price for it?

[JayL]

No idea. I just borrowed the pic from GJ. It just crossed my mind why we still don't have quality like Grizzly here. Grizzly products are mostly Taiwanese if I am not mistaken. I saw the Torq belt sander in Hans. It looks cheesy.

[JayL]

Yup, its in my to buy list..although i dont know when il get it haha!

Yup, i like the knipex brand too..although i dont own one yet.. You know where i can get one locally? I want the end cutters..

I have seen one lone Knipex product in one of the Binondo stores and from the looks of it it was there for ages.

Try Channellock if you can find these at Panda. Good USA made. I have lots of their products and have not yet been disappointed with even one.

http://www.amazon.com/Channellock-358-8-Inch-Cutting-Plier/dp/B00004SBD8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1274982039&sr=8-3

Me I have a 15 year old German Made Orbis.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP2191.jpg

[timber715]

nice pliers Jay, very useful. Torq resembles the Johnson brands, very chiwanese...

[moji]

Nice pliers..I saw some german made end cutters at recto but i forgot exactly what.. do you think any german brand regards to handtools is a good choice?

[JayL]

I would think so unless it's a counterfeit. Best to go with the known brands.

I once purchased a "German" made wrench set at LYS. I went to go home and halfway I turned back and returned these. I could not believe the price I got so I exchanged it for a Jap made product in the same price range. Low price and good quality German made tools don't equate.

[timber715]

daming aswang na gising ah? :):):)

[moji]

I would think so unless it's a counterfeit. Best to go with the known brands.

I once purchased a "German" made wrench set at LYS. I went to go home and halfway I turned back and returned these. I could not believe the price I got so I exchanged it for a Jap made product in the same price range. Low price and good quality German made tools don't equate.

Thats true..speaking of LYS.. i got a crescent 8" wrench but it was not in its packaging anymore.. how can you tell if its original?

[JayL]

I purchased mostly Channellocks because of price... more affordable.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0473.jpg


However to me Knipex quality is far way ahead.


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0467.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0468.jpg



This thread is becoming more and more the TPC equivalent each day .... ;)

[timber715]

This thread is becoming more and more the TPC equivalent each day .... ;)
hmmmm, hehehehe

[moji]

hehe oo nga.. old habits die hard i guess.. ganda talaga ng tools collection mo jay..

[JayL]

Thats true..speaking of LYS.. i got a crescent 8" wrench but it was not in its packaging anymore.. how can you tell if its original?

You have a pic. Is it written Crestoloy? Crescent moved production to China already. If it's US its embossed on the tool.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0475.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0474.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0476.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0477.jpg

[JayL]

hehe oo nga.. old habits die hard i guess.. ganda talaga ng tools collection mo jay..

I'm a tool nut kaya konti lang projects ko .... look at my folding table hindi pa tapos up to now. Lagi kasi ako sa Binondo .... layo pa naman sa Pasay kaya ubos araw. Sabi nga ng Swmbo ko bakit hindi na lang ako mag board doon. Tipid pa daw sa gas. :)


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0469.jpg

[moji]

Nope, doesn't say crestoloy..

[ossie]

awooo hoo hooo, awoooo hoo hooooooooooo hehehe


daming aswang na gising ah? :):):)

[timber715]

hahahah, that made me hungry...

[ossie]

hi Tim,

i did missed the Bosch seminar thingie coz i arrived from OOC work that same day. Hope to see you guys on Boysen seminar hehe para makita ko naman mga alamat na tulad nyo hehe

[JayL]

Speaking of projects mga 65% complete na yun renovation sa condo. Mga 3 weeks pa siguro tapos na to.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/3-5.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/2-7.jpg


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/1-8.jpg


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/4.jpg

[timber715]

hey ossie, ikaw eh di ka naka punta, ang saya pa naman. what does OOC mean? may part 2 pa naman ang Bosch... hintay lang natin...

[moji]

Did you do the woodwork in the condo?


Here's a pic of the wrench:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/Mojito00/IMG_8881.jpg

Looks a lot different from yours :(

[timber715]

this solid Jay?
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/2-7.jpg

[JayL]

@ moji

The Crescent tool you have looks good to me. Most probably it was in the era when Cooper Tool was preparing to move production to China. The ones with Crestoloy are the older ones.

[JayL]

@ moji

No I did not physically do the work but had given a lot of inputs.

@ Timer

It's not solid . Its plywood and Polytuff " masilya" , primer then painted ( designed like wood) then varnish.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/10.jpg


The counter top in the middle stages of work. Finish will be the same as the shelves above.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/6.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/7.jpg



http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/8-1.jpg

[moji]

@ moji

The Crescent tool you have looks good to me. Most probably it was in the era when Cooper tool was preparing to move production to China. The ones with Crestoloy are the older ones.

That's good to know..hehe..when i saw your's i thought i got jipped.. how about sandvik adjustable wrenches? any good?

[timber715]

what Im interested in is the way Moji makes wood filler... Can you make a thread for it Migs?

[moji]

Your painter is good!

[moji]

what Im interested in is the way Moji makes wood filler... Can you make a thread for it Migs?

Cge, but i ran out of materials.. will make one when i stock again. It's not really filler, but more of masilya. Not as tough as polituff of course, but way easier to sand and smooth.

[timber715]

Your painter is good!
we really should have a very good painter in this site soon...

[moji]

we really should have a very good painter in this site soon...

That would help a lot..experienced painters know a lot of tricks to make the work go easier..learned a lot when i had the kitchen cabinets painted before.

haha 3 na pala! cge, tulog na ko.. see ya!

[timber715]

sige Moji, ako rin sign off na muna... Jay, catch you later bro...

[JayL]

That's good to know..hehe..when i saw your's i thought i got jipped.. how about sandvik adjustable wrenches? any good?

Bahco adjustables are the cream of the crop. No play whatsoever in the jaws. They are OEM for Snap ON. I'll trade my Crescent anytime with these.

[JayL]

Your painter is good!

He's old and just do that job everyday. Most of us DIYs can't possibly cope with that. but what's good about this man is he knows how to listen. Knows a good idea when he's presented one and knows how to incorporate it. He don't have time to do lots of research but being a team player he benefits too so does everybody else involved in the project.

[moji]

Bahco adjustables are the cream of the crop. No play whatsoever in the jaws. They are OEM for Snap ON. I'll trade my Crescent anytime with these.

Would you know how to identify if these are original?

[JayL]

@ moji

Fakes usually are more found in very fast moving items like sockets and combination wrenches.

I have not seen counterfeit Bahcos yet. Probably too expensive to manufacture fakes for these products.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0001.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP2624.jpg

This is the 5" Vise. The 4" vise will now be installed in the mini welding table while the orange Pony will go back to the woodshop where it was originally stationed. It is not strong enough for metal working.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0470.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP0472.jpg

The reason why I'm investing on Record Vises is because they will soon be gone. It will be difficult to buy NOS once Panda runs out of stock. US vises runs in the ten of thousands and are not in my price range anymore.

[moji]

I like how those sandviks look.. i should have gotten that instead of the crescent. Oh well, won't hurt to have several wrenches right?

[ossie]

hey ossie, ikaw eh di ka naka punta, ang saya pa naman. what does OOC mean? may part 2 pa naman ang Bosch... hintay lang natin...

hi Tim,
oo nga sayang e at di ako nakasama... OOC: out-of-country.
dapat 28th of April narito na ako but my boss extended my stay for few more days na pumatak naman ng May 1 hehe

[JayL]

I like how those sandviks look.. i should have gotten that instead of the crescent. Oh well, won't hurt to have several wrenches right?

Go for the 10" or 12" Bahco then because you already have an 8 incher.

[JayL]

I was surprised to know that my friend hand carried the Ridgid Pipe Wrench I bought in ebay for $46 ( found out I could even get it less if searched further and waited a bit more before bidding on what I got now) . These sell 8-9K here new. Waiting to receive it maybe by next week pa.

This is my first ebay US purchase of a used tool. With Timber perfecting the shipping setup ebay can probably be a good source for us of used tools in the future.

[timber715]

I'm home... :)

[JayL]

My GSR don't want to start since noon. It's stuck up in the garage now with a defective starter solenoid. Baklasin ko bukas pag sinipag ako. Busy pa naman ako sa mounting ng mga vises. :(

[timber715]

what GSR? is that the grinder Jay?

[JayL]

Ha ha ha . Mitsubishi Lancer GSR.

Buti na lang di ako nagpunta sa Binondo. Balak ko pa naman sana bumili ng mga screws and check lightnings for the condo project.:)

[timber715]

taka nga ako may solenoid eh... hehehe... will work a little on the new rt build, Violaine, in case you log in, text me so I know you are online. be right back...

[timber715]

Im back, what you shopping for Jay? :)

[JayL]

I'm planning to try the Knipex plier wrench. When is the box leaving? You said end of May. Do I still have time to order from amazon?

Guys what do you think about the Finex 1000 mini gun? I'm so undecided on spray guns.

[timber715]

I'm planning to try the Knipex plier wrench. When is the box leaving? You said end of May. Do I still have time to order from amazon?

Guys what do you think about the Finex 1000 mini gun? I'm so undecided on spray guns.
yes Jay, you still have time, Violaine is putting his orders too tonight or tomorrow. when complete I ship...

[timber715]

good morning everyone... :)

[beebeenator]

zzzzzzz i am glad i dont have to wake up for the baby... YET

gonna make a rolling thickness planer station tomorrow.. will square out the carcass for those friggin drawers! :)

May VP na ba tayo?

[timber715]

May VP na ba tayo?
I vote for Moji... hehehehe

[beebeenator]

hala! pano president? "Timber for President"

[timber715]

hala! pano president? "Timber for President"
sino pa, eh di si Jay... respect the senior... hehehehe

[moji]

I vote for Moji... hehehehe

Huy! para san ito?? hehe huli ata ako sa balita..

[JayL]

hala! pano president? "Timber for President"

+1

Bro,

I ordered the Knipex Pliers wrench already. I always wanted to try this product a long time ago. Will provide you the tracking number as soon as amazon issues one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X4J2EI/ref=oss_product

I'm still undecided on the spray gun. I posted my concerns on several forums to see if what I have in mind will suit my needs.

Thanks :)

[timber715]

Jay, please pm me the list of item you have coming so I can advice forex... I'm about to get a leigh super 12 for violaine and a pinnacle rt insrt plate.
btw, met Owyn earlier, he misses the get together. let us schedule a day of talk, maybe starbucks or anything. just sit and chat...