imported hardwood and Bamboo panels

[beebeenator]

I actually got this website from one of Guad's posts

http://www.formaply.com

its is interesting that it allows renewable imported hardwoods available for us and better yet .. BAMBOO PANELS!~!!!!!

i have been wondering if anybody actually made these and VIOLA ... I like the grains on bamboo and looks great in natural finish

Will probably visit or call them up for prices. Not sure how they treat small time customers though

[beebeenator]

warehouse is at

120 mindanao avenue, project 6 , quezon city.

I will try to drop by today. They apparently no longer have sheets of bamboo panels. But strips 6" and 8.5" by 6 to 7 feets. Its 890 per sqm. Damn....this aint cheap.

For flooring its good i think....

[timber715]

warehouse is at

120 mindanao avenue, project 6 , quezon city.

I will try to drop by today. They apparently no longer have sheets of bamboo panels. But strips 6" and 8.5" by 6 to 7 feets. Its 890 per sqm. Damn....this aint cheap.

For flooring its good i think....
uy, uy uy, what time ka punta?

[beebeenator]

gusto ko nga mag time off ako today eh. but the dang paper works are piling.

I am planning to zoom out of the office by three since i am feeling sick also. i need stocks for my lazy susan and for a console table i want to make for the 2nd floor

[moji]

If your going, could you look at the bamboo sheets and tell me how they look, how many plies does the sheets have or is it all solid strips glued together? thanks!

[beebeenator]

i just got back. They dont have bamboo sheets available. :(

They only have tongue and groove floor panels.

i got myself a small slab of oak. Some odd shaped hard maples and 11pcs of 2" x 2.5 " x 4" teaks

per board foot prices

teak (indonesia) 220
ash 200
beech 175
hard maple 250
cherry 280
oak 220
scraps 180


Anything under 3 feet (or 2, i forget) are considered scrap. Hence my maples and oaks are scraps


i think they may have some more but i was feeling rather ughhhh since i am actually sick hahahha. Hence i didnt ask alot.

To Timber, they dont have any rhinoply available at the warehouse . They did say its by order. The dude wasnt so sure about the pricing and etc. He just said call the main office.

Rest assured all the hardwoods they get goes there.

I am now looking at my puny jointer. its so puny....

[beebeenator]

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9249/pic100531002.jpg

this pile o' teak are impulse buy..... :P


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/905/pic100531003.jpg

these will be used mainly for tool making... i think unless maple isnt appropriate, then i will think of using it for something . The far right is oak...

i just realized... i need to install /make my splitter knife in the crappy TS of mine :)

[moji]

Nice wood you got there! Do tell us how the teak is to work with.

[guad]

warehouse is at 120 mindanao avenue, project 6 , quezon city.

They apparently no longer have sheets of bamboo panels. But strips 6" and 8.5" by 6 to 7 feets. Its 890 per sqm.

For flooring its good i think....

Are they out of bamboo panels at all locations or just at their Mindanao Ave. warehouse? In past, I've gotten bamboo panels/flooring, etc. at their office/warehouse in the Scout area, not Mindanao Ave.

At P890/sq.m, on cost per unit volume basis, the panels are somewhere between P250 to P400/board-ft, depending on what you consider to be 1-by thickness. But on cost per unit area, they are like 1-by at P83/board-ft.

If unconstrained, the panels appear to have a tendency to warp over time. I assume that the amount of warp is a function of thickness.

Horizontal, natural (L) and carbonized (R)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4859/imgp1277.jpg

Horizontal, natural
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/438/imgp1278.jpg

[moji]

guad,

do you have a close up picture of the edge of your bamboo sheet?

[guad]

On some samples of their bamboo flooring, I noticed that the tongue cracked. Whether from stress or liable to crack even if unstressed, I do not know.

Unintended experiment: Some of the samples got wet during the floods last year, and they delaminated.

Vertical (top), horizontal (bottom)
Natural (left), carbonized (right)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2608/imgp1275q.jpg

Horizontal (left), vertical (right); natural
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6379/imgp1276xz.jpg

[guad]

Veneers
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3779/imgp1279tp.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7858/imgp1280d.jpg

[guad]

do you have a close up picture of the edge of your bamboo sheet?

Sorry, those are the only pictures I have. I also don't have the bamboo with me now and don't remember how many layers it has. Will try to check when next able.

The delamination of the vertically laminated flooring was quite impressive. It did not just break up into two or three pieces, but almost every lamination came apart. The flooring is supposed to have a 'Treffert' coating, I was told.

Maybe the experiment should also be done with the horizontally laminated flooring and with the uncoated horizontally laminated sheets.

[moji]

It delaminated that much? I guess i can't use that. Me and my brother are trying to find a decent bamboo sheet to make into longboards kasi.

[guad]

If you will be encasing engineered bamboo in laminating epoxy (and presumably fiberglass), then I assume that the epoxy coating would be a waterproof barrier and protect the laminations from failing due to moisture. Without such coating, it looks like the bamboo imported by Formaply doesn't like water.

These might help answer how many plies.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8528/imgp1278ex1.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1185/imgp1278ex2.jpg

[bbn]

Hey nice post Bee. I've been looking to buy small pieces for, as you said, for jigs and toolings.

[moji]

thanks guad. Yup a coat of fiberglass would definitely be needed. I guess the adhesive used is like ordinary plywood in that it doesn't like water at all.

[beebeenator]

Hey nice post Bee. I've been looking to buy small pieces for, as you said, for jigs and toolings.


they have several pieces pa. The bodegero is also very helpful. He actually scrutinizes the wood to make sure he identifies it right.

I will be making a new marking guage using the hard maple :)

all those scraps cost me 1K aprrox. I am pretty happy with it. And the hard maple weighs heavier than the narra stock i have (more or less same board feet)

[telecaster]

they have several pieces pa. The bodegero is also very helpful. He actually scrutinizes the wood to make sure he identifies it right.

I will be making a new marking guage using the hard maple :)

all those scraps cost me 1K aprrox. I am pretty happy with it. And the hard maple weighs heavier than the narra stock i have (more or less same board feet)

bee thats probably danny boy, mabait yan i usually give him extra everytime i buy wood from them, he saves me figured maple whenever he finds one he has a very good eye in finding figured woods

update on the price
maple is - 250
white ash - 240
cherry - 290
new zealand pine - 54
bamboo flooring na tig 3-4ft long 4in wide 24pcs 1 box is 3000 or 2800 if i remember correctly

OT they are actually going to sell aluminum they transferred the woods near the gate to make way for the aluminum and steel products